Comments on: Oregon Man Gets 30 Days In Jail For Collecting Rainwater http://revmodo.com/2012/07/30/oregon-man-gets-30-days-in-jail-for-rainwater-catchment/ Covering the clean energy industry Sat, 04 Aug 2012 00:10:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4 By: justthefactsmaam http://revmodo.com/2012/07/30/oregon-man-gets-30-days-in-jail-for-rainwater-catchment/#comment-448 justthefactsmaam Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:53:00 +0000 http://revmodo.com/?p=5965#comment-448 Read the story folks. Its not about collecting Rainwater. its about illegally blocking the flow of water to a river. And anybody who doesn't understand why this would be a problem needs to get their heads of of their butts. Irresponsbile of the writer of this article in how it was titled and written. If someone walks on your property are you allowed to shoot them? Rob them? Detain them? Are you allowed to grow marijuana? Make moonshine? Run a prostitution ring? Test a nuclear weapon? NO! Just because its your property doesn't mean you can do what you want with it regardless of who else it may be affected. Thank god. And shame on you people who don't take the time to actually read and find out the whole story before you mouth off about how unjust everything always is. Look in the mirror, you're the problem in society. So each one of you who post on here about how its so wrong for a man getting jailed for collecting rainwater, know that you are making yourself look like an idiot. Read the story folks. Its not about collecting Rainwater. its about illegally blocking the flow of water to a river. And anybody who doesn’t understand why this would be a problem needs to get their heads of of their butts. Irresponsbile of the writer of this article in how it was titled and written. If someone walks on your property are you allowed to shoot them? Rob them? Detain them? Are you allowed to grow marijuana? Make moonshine? Run a prostitution ring? Test a nuclear weapon? NO! Just because its your property doesn’t mean you can do what you want with it regardless of who else it may be affected. Thank god. And shame on you people who don’t take the time to actually read and find out the whole story before you mouth off about how unjust everything always is. Look in the mirror, you’re the problem in society. So each one of you who post on here about how its so wrong for a man getting jailed for collecting rainwater, know that you are making yourself look like an idiot.

]]> By: Humanitarian Defense Council http://revmodo.com/2012/07/30/oregon-man-gets-30-days-in-jail-for-rainwater-catchment/#comment-441 Humanitarian Defense Council Thu, 02 Aug 2012 23:34:00 +0000 http://revmodo.com/?p=5965#comment-441 this is a terrorist state modern day hitler state.. no worse ! what country is it illigel to collect rain water anywere i would go to walmart wait for rain collect in a bucket and dear the police to arrest me i'll do more then spit on their corporate supporting faces this is a terrorist state modern day hitler state.. no worse !
what country is it illigel to collect rain water anywere
i would go to walmart wait for rain collect in a bucket and dear the police to arrest me
i’ll do more then spit on their corporate supporting faces

]]> By: Zach http://revmodo.com/2012/07/30/oregon-man-gets-30-days-in-jail-for-rainwater-catchment/#comment-438 Zach Thu, 02 Aug 2012 22:20:00 +0000 http://revmodo.com/?p=5965#comment-438 http://www.usacarry.com/forums/politics/27988-arrested-collecting-rainwater.html http://personalliberty.com/2012/07/30/man-arrested-for-collecting-rainwater-on-his-property/ http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-friends/index.html?intcmp=features#/v/1761129825001/30-days-in-jail-for-collecting-rainwater Harrington had a permit, but it was taken away. I don't know why you think he never had one. That's simply misinformation. http://www.usacarry.com/forums/politics/27988-arrested-collecting-rainwater.html

http://personalliberty.com/2012/07/30/man-arrested-for-collecting-rainwater-on-his-property/

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-friends/index.html?intcmp=features#/v/1761129825001/30-days-in-jail-for-collecting-rainwater

Harrington had a permit, but it was taken away. I don’t know why you think he never had one. That’s simply misinformation.

]]> By: Tim Bowen http://revmodo.com/2012/07/30/oregon-man-gets-30-days-in-jail-for-rainwater-catchment/#comment-415 Tim Bowen Thu, 02 Aug 2012 04:14:00 +0000 http://revmodo.com/?p=5965#comment-415 This story didn't make any sense to me and sure enough, it seems it may not be not exactly true. I'm posting this information where I see the story posted as it's telling partial truths without fact checking that's passing false stories around the internet and I find this very annoying, please pass this on. Many Oregonians have told me that it's totally legal to catch rain water there and this is what is in the Oregon local news on this story: http://www.kpic.com/news/local/Eagle-Point-man-jailed-for-illegal-water-reservoirs-164206356.html http://www.oregonlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2012/07/jackson_county_man_sentenced_f.html What Harringon actually did was illegally damned publicly owned waters passing through his land and collected "about 40 acre feet; enough to fill almost 20 Olympic-sized swimming pools" in "man-made reservoirs feature boat docks, boats, and were stocked by Harrington with trout and Bluegill for recreational fishing," and prevented the water from continuing on it's natural and normal route and blocked others downstream from the water. Then the state tried to work with Harrington for TEN YEARS to get him to stop doing this, he was cited, he paid fines, but soon as his probation ran out or the fines were paid, he kept blocking the water and filling these illegal reservoirs and denying water to others downstream. After ten years of trying to work with him and seeing him over and over and over in court and hearing him promise he wouldn't do it again and then seeing him again the court finally sent him to jail. Harrington never applied for a permit for the dams and has never had one. This story didn’t make any sense to me and sure enough, it seems it may not be not exactly true. I’m posting this information where I see the story posted as it’s telling partial truths without fact checking that’s passing false stories around the internet and I find this very annoying, please pass this on.

Many Oregonians have told me that it’s totally legal to catch rain water there and this is what is in the Oregon local news on this story:

http://www.kpic.com/news/local/Eagle-Point-man-jailed-for-illegal-water-reservoirs-164206356.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2012/07/jackson_county_man_sentenced_f.html

What Harringon actually did was illegally damned publicly owned waters passing through his land and collected “about 40 acre feet; enough to fill almost 20 Olympic-sized swimming pools” in “man-made reservoirs feature boat docks, boats, and were stocked by Harrington with trout and Bluegill for recreational fishing,” and prevented the water from continuing on it’s natural and normal route and blocked others downstream from the water. Then the state tried to work with Harrington for TEN YEARS to get him to stop doing this, he was cited, he paid fines, but soon as his probation ran out or the fines were paid, he kept blocking the water and filling these illegal reservoirs and denying water to others downstream. After ten years of trying to work with him and seeing him over and over and over in court and hearing him promise he wouldn’t do it again and then seeing him again the court finally sent him to jail. Harrington never applied for a permit for the dams and has never had one.

]]> By: Frank http://revmodo.com/2012/07/30/oregon-man-gets-30-days-in-jail-for-rainwater-catchment/#comment-406 Frank Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:56:00 +0000 http://revmodo.com/?p=5965#comment-406 Going to jail for collecting rain water? This is got to be the dumbiest thing I have read to date. We have bigger and worst problems in this country than sending someone to prison for collecting rain water. What's next sendinf me to prision for walking on the sidewalk? These politician and government need to get there head out of there butts and worry about everything else thats has gone wrong in this country. Going to jail for collecting rain water? This is got to be the dumbiest thing I have read to date. We have bigger and worst problems in this country than sending someone to prison for collecting rain water. What’s next sendinf me to prision for walking on the sidewalk? These politician and government need to get there head out of there butts and worry about everything else thats has gone wrong in this country.

]]> By: supercarrot http://revmodo.com/2012/07/30/oregon-man-gets-30-days-in-jail-for-rainwater-catchment/#comment-404 supercarrot Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:02:00 +0000 http://revmodo.com/?p=5965#comment-404 yeah, unless he lives on a ridge, there is no way to prove that he is only catching water running off of his own land. (all water runs downhill. someone else's water uphill will fill your reservoir, and therefore invalidate your claim.) yeah, unless he lives on a ridge, there is no way to prove that he is only catching water running off of his own land. (all water runs downhill. someone else’s water uphill will fill your reservoir, and therefore invalidate your claim.)

]]> By: Ken Plowman http://revmodo.com/2012/07/30/oregon-man-gets-30-days-in-jail-for-rainwater-catchment/#comment-402 Ken Plowman Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:14:00 +0000 http://revmodo.com/?p=5965#comment-402 sorry I gave you a down vote trying to expand your reply, I do actually agree, and if he has just built ponds to catch water he is ok, as long as he hasn't blocked actual ESTABLISHED streams/waterways. The water authority is worse than ANY department for the nazi shit they pull. That should be dismantled as a corrupt organization sorry I gave you a down vote trying to expand your reply, I do actually agree, and if he has just built ponds to catch water he is ok, as long as he hasn’t blocked actual ESTABLISHED streams/waterways. The water authority is worse than ANY department for the nazi shit they pull. That should be dismantled as a corrupt organization

]]> By: RiverFriend http://revmodo.com/2012/07/30/oregon-man-gets-30-days-in-jail-for-rainwater-catchment/#comment-399 RiverFriend Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:08:00 +0000 http://revmodo.com/?p=5965#comment-399 Many rivers are fed by rain runoff and snow melt. Even so, damming a river or a stream with ten and twenty foot tall dams--to create ponds so large they are sufficient for recreational boating and fishing--is not "rain catchment" and is certainly not similar to harvesting rain with rain buckets as this article and accompanying photo suggest. Many rivers are fed by rain runoff and snow melt. Even so, damming a river or a stream with ten and twenty foot tall dams–to create ponds so large they are sufficient for recreational boating and fishing–is not “rain catchment” and is certainly not similar to harvesting rain with rain buckets as this article and accompanying photo suggest.

]]> By: Parker http://revmodo.com/2012/07/30/oregon-man-gets-30-days-in-jail-for-rainwater-catchment/#comment-398 Parker Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:21:00 +0000 http://revmodo.com/?p=5965#comment-398 the case is really not about "rainwater catchment". It is, as the source story points out: "But Tom Paul, administrator of the Oregon Water Resources Department, claims that Harrington has been violating the state’s water use law by diverting water from streams running into the Big Butte River. So the question at stake is IF it is all rainwater and melt and not reservoirs created by illegally diverting streams. the case is really not about “rainwater catchment”.

It is, as the source story points out:

“But Tom Paul, administrator of the Oregon Water Resources Department, claims that Harrington has been violating the state’s water use law by diverting water from streams running into the Big Butte River.

So the question at stake is IF it is all rainwater and melt and not reservoirs created by illegally diverting streams.

]]> By: Oregonrivers http://revmodo.com/2012/07/30/oregon-man-gets-30-days-in-jail-for-rainwater-catchment/#comment-397 Oregonrivers Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:13:00 +0000 http://revmodo.com/?p=5965#comment-397 The story and the photo get it wrong. This is not a story about rain barrels but a story about dams. To be clear, Harrington was not capturing rain in rain barrels. Rather, he built three dams (two ten foot tall dams and one 20 foot tall dam) across a stream on his property. The water he impounded behind the dams would have otherwise run into Big Butte Creek, which is home to rainbow trout, Chinook and Coho salmon, and Pacific Lamprey and is an important drinking water source for downstream communities. In Oregon, there is a permitting process that must be followed to ensure that construction of new dams will not harm fish or other public interest values. There is even a very streamlined process for small dams. Harrington does not have permits for his dams. What the author of the article advocates is that any landowner should be allowed to dam up a stream without seeking state review or permits even if it harms fish and other public interest values. That would be a terrible policy with serious environmental consequences and is fortunately not allowed under Oregon law. (Oregon law does allow one to capture rain water from an impervious surface, such as a roof top -- a common practice here). Good for the Oregon Water Resources Department for not allowing landowners to harm the Oregon rivers we all love. The story and the photo get it wrong. This is not a story
about rain barrels but a story about dams. To be clear, Harrington was not
capturing rain in rain barrels. Rather, he built three dams (two ten foot tall
dams and one 20 foot tall dam) across a stream on his property. The water he
impounded behind the dams would have otherwise run into Big Butte Creek, which
is home to rainbow trout, Chinook and Coho salmon, and Pacific Lamprey and is
an important drinking water source for downstream communities. In Oregon, there
is a permitting process that must be followed to ensure that construction of
new dams will not harm fish or other public interest values. There is even a
very streamlined process for small dams. Harrington does not have permits for
his dams. What the author of the article advocates is that any landowner should
be allowed to dam up a stream without seeking state review or permits even if
it harms fish and other public interest values. That would be a terrible policy
with serious environmental consequences and is fortunately not allowed under
Oregon law. (Oregon law does allow one to capture rain water from an impervious
surface, such as a roof top — a common practice here). Good for the Oregon
Water Resources Department for not allowing landowners to harm the Oregon
rivers we all love.

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